- Some “Today” show viewers are frustrated with the way Savannah Guthrie handled interviews with Nick Sandmann and Nathan Phillips.
- Critics said her interview with “MAGA teen” Sandmann was soft and didn’t interrogate his unapologetic narrative about the event, which was issued by a public relations firm.
- In her interview with Phillips, Guthrie raised questions about his military service during the Vietnam War, which isn’t in dispute.
“Today” show viewers are upset at host Savannah Guthrie’s interview with Nick Sandmann and Nathan Phillips, the two people at the center of a viral encounter that’s become a new battle in the culture war between left and right.
NBC’s morning show is by far the biggest platform the two received to air their views on Friday’s encounter in Washington, DC. Sandmann, a teenage high school student wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap, stared down Phillips a Native American activist who put himself between Sandmann’s classmates and a group of Black Hebrew Israelites jeering the students with racist and homophobic slurs. Sandmann was in the nation’s capital to attend the anti-abortion March for Life, while Phillips was attending the Indigenous Peoples March.
Some viewers saw Guthrie’s interview style as “soft” on Sandmann, and were frustrated by her passivity to Sandmann’s shifting stories.
You screwed up – Today Show screwed up. You had a chance to bring some real conversation and instead, you offered a coached kid to just say his talking points. A new low for journalism. #actualfakenews
— Daniel Maycock (@danielmaycock) January 23, 2019
Am still a big fan of yours over the years, but I'm not sure how this segment was allowed to air either.
— James (@jalexa1218) January 23, 2019
Sandmann’s family hired RunSwitch PR, a public relations firm, amid his response to the controversy. Though the video shows Sandmann unmoving and staring at Phillips, Sandmann said in a statement issued by the firm that he was trying to “diffuse [sic] the situation.”
In his interview with Guthrie, Sandmann said he smiled to show Phillips that he couldn’t be provoked. But he also said he didn’t walk away in case Phillips wanted to have a conversation with him at that moment.
“Now, I wish I would have walked away. I didn’t want to be disrespectful to Mr. Phillips and walk away if he was trying to talk to me,” Sandmann told Guthrie. “But I was surrounded by a lot of people I didn’t know that had their phones out, had cameras, and I didn’t want to bump into anyone or seem like I was trying to do something.”
Critics also pointed out that Sandmann offered explanations rather than apologies.
Interviewer to racist: So, why *did* you do the racism?
Racist: You know what, I was within my rights to do the racism.
Interviewer: Looking back, would you do the racism again?
Racist: You know what, since I got caught, no I would probably not do the racism again.
— ???????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????? (@mathewrodriguez) January 23, 2019
Sandmann’s supporters weren’t satisfied with Guthrie’s interview either. Two popular commentators on the right, conspiracy theorist Paul Joseph Watson and conservative Benny Johnson, criticised her for raising the issue in the first place.
Why is the media STILL asking Nick Sandmann (MAGA smirk kid) to apologize? He did absolutely NOTHING wrong. pic.twitter.com/I4aRCtVl6V
— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) January 23, 2019
This is a despicable & leading question.
TODAY SHOW: “You’re wrong. Why don’t you see your faults? Apologize.”
Nick: “Um, I just stood there.”
God Bless this kid for standing his ground against the SJW outrage mob that is the establishment media https://t.co/lyslqAsjpC
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) January 22, 2019
Nathan Phillips, in his own interview with Guthrie Thursday, said he forgave Sandmann but criticised the teen’s response as being orchestrated by the public relations firm. He said he wasn’t impressed by Sandmann’s comments to Guthrie.
“I was upset I was made to sit down and watch it,” Phillips said. “I got into the first 30 seconds, 40 seconds of it. And I thought, well, that’s all I needed to hear.”
Guthrie has also been criticised for asking Phillips about his military service during the Vietnam War, which is not in dispute.
In interviews, Phillips identified himself as a “Vietnam-era” veteran who was not deployed in Vietnam, but figures on the right have falsely accused him of misusing the “Vietnam War veteran” label.
Nonetheless, Guthrie asked Phillips to “clear up” the nature of his service.
Guthrie’s interviews were criticised from the start, when Guthrie announced her interview with Sandmann would air on Wednesday. Critics asked why she would focus on him, and anticipated she would offer Sandmann a platform to air a public relations-engineered response.
NBC, Savannah Guthrie and the Today Show severely under estimated how unpopular a move it is giving this young man with an expensive PR firm a platform. As a mother of 5 boys, I recognize that smirk, that boy needs a lesson in empathy and humility, #shameonNBC
— luckyme6 (@jblakefinn) January 23, 2019
Imagine if a black kid would have done something disrespectful to a white woman that went viral, I doubt they would be getting the Today Show love. This is white supremacy and media working together.
— Robert Littal (@BSO) January 22, 2019
Can’t wait for his sit-down interview with Savannah Guthrie https://t.co/yVcYzOZ349
— Jess Dweck (@TheDweck) January 23, 2019
INSIDER has reached out to the “Today” show for comment.
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