Sallie Krawcheck has made her first big move after leaving a top position at Bank of America.
She tells Business Insider that she has joined the board of a small online-brokerage startup, Motif Investing.
What we wanted to know: How did Motif CEO Hardeep Walia persuade her to sign up?
Krawcheck has had an amazing career and could do just about anything now—so her move is a major, major coup for Walia.
“Hardeep eats, sleeps, and breathes this idea,” Krawcheck told Business Insider.
“Let me illustrate that with an anecdote,” Krawcheck said. “We were scheduled for a breakfast meeting. I woke up at 2:30 a.m. with food poisoning. I emailed Walia at 3:30 apologizing, saying I couldn’t make it.”
Walia, who had just flow into New York, was awake. He responded to Krawcheck three minutes later.
“First impressions are critical,” Krawcheck said. They rescheduled for a dinner meeting, and while it took months for Walia to seal the deal, he did end up recruiting Krawcheck to the board.
So there you have it: The secret to success? Never sleep.
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