PIMCO co-chief doesn’t usually get pinned down with specific predictions, but in an interview with the AP he comes close.
Homes are selling at their fastest clip in nearly three years, the unemployment rate is falling and stocks are up 66 per cent since their March lows – the best performance since the 1930s.
What’s not to like?
Plenty, according to Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive of giant bond manager Pimco. The investor says the recovery may be gaining steam but is no different than a kid who eats too much candy at one of the birthday parties his 6-year-old daughter attends.
“We’re on a sugar high,” El-Erian says. “It feels good for a while but is unsustainable.”
His point: This burst of economic activity fed by government spending and near-zero interest rates will soon peter out.
As CEO at Newport Beach, Calif.-based Pimco, El-Erian, 51, oversees nearly $1 trillion in assets, more than the gross domestic product of most countries. So when he talks, people listen.
What he’s saying now:
_Stocks will drop 10 per cent in the space of three or four weeks, bringing the Standard & Poor’s 500 index below 1,000 – though he’s not predicting when.
_The unemployment rate will be hovering above 8 per cent a year from now.
_U.S. gross domestic product will grow at an average 2 per cent or so for years to come – a third slower than we’re used to.
El-Erian and his famous partner, Pimco founder Bill Gross, are watched closely because they’ve made investors a lot of money over the years. The Pimco Total Return Fund, which at $203 billion is the world’s largest mutual fund, has returned an average 7.6 per cent annually over 10 years, after fees, versus 6.3 per cent for Barclays Capital U.S. Aggregate fixed income index fund.
The hotshots at Pimco have made money by anticipating big moves in the economy and interest rates way before other investors. In the depths of the financial crisis last year, for instance, Pimco sold some of its Treasury bonds to panicked investors looking for a safe haven and put the proceeds into government-backed mortgages and bank debt – in time to catch the big upswing in prices of those and other riskier securities this year.
Now Pimco is once again changing tack. El-Erian says people are fooling themselves if they think all the bullish data of late means a strong recovery is in the offing. So he’s buying Treasurys and selling riskier stuff.
His bet: Investors will get scared again and want U.S.-guaranteed debt so they know they’ll get repaid.
At Total Return, government-related securities, including Treasurys and corporate debt backed by Washington, comprised 48 per cent of the fund’s holdings in September. That was up from 9 per cent at the beginning of the year. One of Pimco’s newest funds, the Global Multi-Asset Fund, a hybrid stock-bond offering, is 35 per cent in equities now, down from 60 per cent earlier this year.
Investors betting on stocks or high-yield bonds are likely to be disappointed, El-Erian says.
Markets for those securities are rallying not because people like them but because they hate the puny yields of safer investments like money markets and feel they have no choice but to buy, he says. He quips that that makes the bull market as likely to last as a forced marriage.
The danger: If stock and junk bond prices start falling, lots of investors are likely to bail, feeding the drop.
Of course, there are plenty of true believers in the bull who are not buying the El-Erian line.
James Paulsen, chief strategist at Wells Capital Management in Minneapolis, with $355 billion under management, has been pounding the table for months to buy stocks. Just like in the early 1980s, the recovery will take the form of a “V,” he says. The reason: Companies have cut inventories and payrolls to the bone, so just a little revenue growth could translate into a bumper crop of profits.
El-Erian says many of the bulls don’t appreciate just how much the government props still under the economy are masking its weakness. Instead of focusing on the fundamentals today, he says, they’re looking to the past, expecting a quick economic rebound because that’s what’s happened before.
We’re trained to think the “farther you fall, the higher you’ll bounce back,” El-Erian says. “We’re hostage to the V.”
El-Erian says he learned to be open to many different views on the world (and markets) from his father, an Egyptian diplomat who insisted on reading several newspapers everyday, both on the right and the left. El-Erian had hoped to become a college professor. But when his father died, he took a job at the International Monetary Fund to support the family. He rose through the ranks, eventually becoming deputy director.
In 1999 he joined Pimco, where he quickly made a name for himself with some prescient bets on emerging markets.
One of his biggest wins: selling Argentine bonds in 2000 while they were still popular with investors. When the country defaulted the next year, the emerging markets fund that El-Erian managed returned 28 per cent versus negative 1 per cent for the Emerging Market Bond Index. He eventually left to head the group that manages Harvard University’s massive endowment, returning to Pimco in January 2008 in time catch the depths of the financial crisis.
El-Erian says we’ve probably seen the worst of the crisis but consumers, and not just Washington, need to start spending again for the recovery to really take hold.
He doesn’t expect that to happen soon. Like in the Great Depression, Americans are saving more and borrowing less – a shift in attitudes toward family finances that Pimco thinks will last a generation.
That, plus the impact of more regulation and higher taxes, El-Erian says, will crimp growth for years to come.
Whatever the merits of that view, Pimco is not exactly knocking the lights out right now. So far this year, the Total Return Fund has returned 14 per cent, impressive in normal times but no better than average for similar funds during the rally, according to Morningstar. The 19.1 per cent return for Global Multi-Asset, which El-Erian co-manages, lags two-thirds of its peers. El-Erian says he sold equities “too early” but is convinced his view on the market will prove correct – even if it strikes many as a tad too pessimistic.
“I’m calling it as I see it,” he says. “I’m not optimistic or pessimistic – I’m realistic.”